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Lonnie2
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Posted - 01/20/2012 :  09:11:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought about adding to MMGs' topic since my question is so closly related but decided to make a new topic and break the problem into separate issues. First some background details the OS is Windows XP that I am trying to backup with a Buffalo Drive Station model HD-CX1.0TU2. When I go to My Computer the drive station is seen as J: drive with 283 MB size and 0 free space. It looks like the computer is not seeing the rest of the drive station. By the way, I just looked at that recently. The computer seeing or not seeing all of the drive station was not addressed during all of the prior troubleshooting which I will discuss now.

The company techs have been working this issue as a Memeo software issue. At first I was going to back up this computer using the encryption method that was offered. But we could not get it to backup. Then they had me uninstall and reinstall the software several times still to no avail. Could this issue be caused because I first went to the encryption method. If so, what can I do now?

When I do get laptop using Windows XP backed up can I then tranfer the files to the laptop using Windows 7 Professional? No, Xhi I have not been able to network the two laptops together yet. I have found the name and group name on the Window XP os but not the Windows 7 OS. Will I be able to partition this Drive Station to back up both the XP OS and the 7 OS laptops.

Am I trying to use the wrong back up system? Is there a better system that will backup both the XP and 7 OSs and then restore them eayly if there would be an issue to arise? Is ther a difference between this system and an image system? I an image system easier to restore ALL of the data and programs that are on a computer? I would appreciate any recomendations and suggestions.

Thanks for your help. Lonnie

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Posted - 01/20/2012 :  10:06:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First things first. with the drive plugged in Go to Start->right click computer, select Manage. Then select Disk management. When the window comes up look in the list at the bottom of the window and tell me what it says in the box(es) for your Buffalo drive. It should look something like my Western Digital My Book shown here.

It may have more than one partition like my C: drive does. Let me know what each says.
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Lonnie2
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Posted - 01/20/2012 :  18:10:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry Xhi that it took so long for me to get the information for you. After following instructions The bottom of the disk management screen shows Disk 0 as the C drive with 69.44GB NTFS Healthy (System), CD-ROM 0 DVD(D:) No Media, and CD-ROM 2 Utilty_HD-CXU2 (J:) 283MB CDFS Healthy. I think that this 283 MB is the virtual CD in the Buffalo hard drive with the loading software. There are no other entries in this window. What now on wise one?
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xhi
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Posted - 01/20/2012 :  19:54:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I don't have a Buffalo drive, but you mean it did not show anything else than the 283MB on that drive. Nothing saying Unallocated or something like that?


When you click on the drive in My computer is there a setup.exe file? Or an autorun.ini? If so click on them and see what happens.

Your disk may be defective.

You probably do not want the Memeo(?) software any way. Astraight drive is better.

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Lonnie2
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Posted - 01/21/2012 :  08:21:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I right clicked on the icon an Autoplay is displayed which I clicked on but nothing happened. What are your recommendations? Thanks for your help. Lonnie
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xhi
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Posted - 01/21/2012 :  09:50:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it is time to return it.
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Lonnie2
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Posted - 01/21/2012 :  14:05:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Xhi for your help. What manufacturer and model would you recommend? I have read but do not understand about backup systems to can restore virtually everything on your harddrive using imagery. Can I backup both laptops that have Windows XP on one and Windows 7 7 on the other? I have both computers on a wireless network to get internet using a Cradlepoint MBR 900 router. But they do not see each other yet because I have not found the names on the Windows 7 system. I f I can backup both laptops using the same external harddrive, can I do it wirelessly? Now armed with that info what would you recommend? Thanks again for your help? Lonnie
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BillMsenior
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Posted - 01/21/2012 :  15:03:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonnie2

Thanks Xhi for your help. What manufacturer and model would you recommend? I have read but do not understand about backup systems to can restore virtually everything on your harddrive using imagery. Can I backup both laptops that have Windows XP on one and Windows 7 7 on the other? I have both computers on a wireless network to get internet using a Cradlepoint MBR 900 router. But they do not see each other yet because I have not found the names on the Windows 7 system. I f I can backup both laptops using the same external harddrive, can I do it wirelessly? Now armed with that info what would you recommend? Thanks again for your help? Lonnie


Western Digital is the DeFacto favorite in external drives. IMAGE backups are the way to go, although you can COPY documents and photos to an EHD (I'd make sure to create either a separate partition, or a separate folder to keep them separate from the backup files/folders). To back up each device, just plug the EHD into the USB port, then boot from the CD that you will create for the image backups, or just boot to your OS and COPY whatever files/folders you want to to the EHD.


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Lonnie2
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Posted - 01/21/2012 :  16:54:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks BM for your reply. However now I need help leading this old man through the tech world. So go Western Digital over Iomega, Buffalo, Seagate to name a few names that I have seen. Second does the Western Digital EHD create the image of the laptops HD that it is backing up or is the image created someother way? Does Western Digital come with a separate CD or a "virtual" CD contained within the EHD with the installtion software? Should we consider wireless backups of the WindowsXP OS and the Window 7 OS or direct connect each system at separate times with one EHD? Will 1 TB be big enough? I know there are a lot of questions and I can not promise there will not be more. Thanks again for your help and guidance. Lonnie
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BillMsenior
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Posted - 01/21/2012 :  18:53:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The only CD that comes with any hard drive is the manufacturers boot disk to format/partition the HD. To create an IMAGE backup, you will need Acronis True Image ($$$$) or you will have to download BartPE and DriveImageXML (both FREE), and create a boot disk that you will use to create the image backup. Both programs will create a folder that contains all the info necessary for a restore, should you ever need it. If you choose to leave the EHD as one big partition, just point the image program to it, and it will create the necessary files/folder. If you choose to partition the EHD, you will tell the image program which partition to save it in. Same applies to any files/folders you COPY to the EHD. You CANNOT do the image backup wireless. The EHD must be plugged in (via USB) to each machine separately, and for the image backup only, you MUST boot from the CD.


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Lonnie2
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Posted - 01/21/2012 :  20:24:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks BM. Is the image CD reliant on the EHD or can you create an image CD and restore if necessary (hopefully never). Make a separate CD for each OS, right? If the time would ever come, then insert the CD into the CD drive and turn the computer on, right. It is suppose to reboot and restore from that CD. If that is the case and you were acking up with the EHD, then after the reboot and restore with the CD you update with the latest info from the EHD, right? So the EHD can never be wireless for backup. Just moved from one computer to another in order to do the latest backup. Did I get it right? Thanks, Lonnie
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BillMsenior
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Posted - 01/22/2012 :  07:56:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can put the image file on a flash drive, a DVD, or an EHD. Whichever device you choose has to have a large enough capacity to hold the image. I have LINUX on my laptop, and I image it to a flash drive, but I use another HD for imaging my Windopes OS to.

The boot CD contains ONLY the image program. All imaged files/folders will be on the EHD, or whatever other device you use.

If you try to restore to a NEW PC, the restore MAY NOT work. New machine will have different system drivers than old one, therefore, there's a chance it won't boot. If it DOES boot, you would still have to install the new systems drivers for it to function properly.


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Lonnie2
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Posted - 01/22/2012 :  09:40:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks BM for your explaination. Sounds like the image and the recovery CD that I maded for the Windows 7 OS are similar both the description and purpose. I'll have to get a new EHD to backup both of the XP and 7 OSs because my current EHD is still dead in the water. This time I think that I will look toward a Western Digital for an EHD. Thanks again for your help Lonnie
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